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Don't really care what your marks are if they are not accurate. The law of gravity is what it is no matter how spiritual one is, AS IS the law of sin indwelling the flesh of all mankind-as Paul stated, NO LONGER I. Paul did not see that when he was blinded by the "god" of this world. I do not falsely blame my fellow man for being that "god."

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God has freed us from the law of sin and death...


Us, yes. See. We agree. But SATAN and DEVILS were never, are never, and will never be forgiven. They are merely passing temporal powers that God Himself fashioned, uses, and will eventually be put away from ALL His Offspring:

"-anyone who dies is RELEASED FROM sin" Romans 6:7
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you judge those here as "Spiritual" tell me sir


I judge all mankind as Gods offspring PER the Word of God. Acts 17:23-31/Deut. 14:1/Psalm 82:6

Do you count that against me?
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how you can judge when Paul that you quote admonished us not to judge else we be judged.


None of Gods offspring are judged as being the sinners, so NO JOE, there is NO JUDGMENT upon them other than the JUDGMENT OF THEIR PERFECTION. But of course these are not the only entities presently IN PLAY now is it JOE?

So you see, this is where real judgment comes to play. Some will deny that God created and uses evil. Some will deny their are such temporal entities as SATAN/The Devil or his messengers. Some will even go so far as to claim "their salvation." All of these positions ARE in fact judgments no matter how hard we, you or I or anyone else, tries to hide from them.
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Thank God I don't have to judge between sin and death
that was taken care of before the foundation of the world
was laid....


The death we die in the flesh is a real one my friend. Our dust blowing in the wind will testify to that fact soon enough. To deny that God has created a power called death and say that it does not apply at least to our physical flesh is just ridiculous nonsense. Jesus died a VERY REAL AND MOST PAINFUL death. And Gods offspring ALL continue to suffer UNDER THAT PENALTY because of our "other occupants."

Romans 8:10
And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin
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So your GoodNews is not freeing anyone,


And your spin is neither accurate nor an honest replay of what is being said. Let me turn it up for you Joe.

ALL PEOPLE ARE GODS OFFSPRING AND AS SUCH THEY COULD never ever ever BE LOST....

Now SHOW me your offense. Offense over such a statement is NOT AVAILABLE is it JOE?

So what is your real beef anyway? Don't like the fact that sin, evil and death are presently IN PLAY? Perhaps you can make them DISAPPEAR. Just close yer eyes and tap them ruby slippers? lol

You see being "in the Spirit" should rightfully entail us to BE TRUTHFUL because the SPIRIT is not against the FACTS.

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but placing
them under condemnation of which Paul again said,


I'm going to say this ONE MORE TIME Joe. I place NO child of God UNDER condemnation. I do place ETERNAL CONDEMNATION upon Satan and his messengers. Do you see the DIVIDE? I do not have to run away from reality at the expense of maintaining a personal spiritual fairy tale.

God in Christ is The Saviour of the world...
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every eternal torment scripture is FULLY APPLICABLE AND TRUE.

Satan and devils will have an ANTI-heaven for them as ANTI-spirits. And I'm OK with that. That's just what they do.

God Himself has bound all men to disobedience SO THAT He may demonstrate to HIS OFFSPRING the concept of ETERNAL MERCY as a first hand experience. I don't say that Gods offspring ARE the disobedient. dig? Neither do I deny that there IS disobedience presently. It's just a power that we have been placed UNDER for His Purposes.

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There is therefore Now, no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

walk on and turn the page...


What is it exactly that you think you are hearing that you dont' want me to say there buddy? lol So many so called believers, when they hear "these things" simply cannot "accept" the facts. And when they cannot, to me, they are not presently IN TRUTH. The Spirit, The Word and Love are all in complete agreement on these matters.

Who then is NOT? That's right...the disobedient who do not want to be REVEALED.

In case you need any examples of these things, please refer to the several THOUSAND instances where JESUS separated these entities FROM mankind throughout the Gospels. It's beyond any reasonable denial to anyone who can read and comprehend.

And if not, what is that to me? Nothing.

Gods Children will hear and agree with Truth. The disobedient will BUCK AND KICK.

There's yer sign...

enjoy!

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