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If what you say is true then Jesus Christ accomplished
nothing by going to the cross....


And that would be merely an opinion rather than a full estimation of the facts.

For example would mankind KNOW that they were Gods offspring/Children OR that "we" are NOT the same as we are presently bound with apart from His Word, Work and Disclosure...

You say NO? I say your math is faulty.
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We are not under the old covenant....


Well now that's an entirely different subject.

The law was always meant for "the lawless." Who are the lawless but the devil and his messengers in the flesh? In that understanding there is no use to deny The Law's FULL applicability AND if the sin indwelling a persons flesh, the devil, killed someone, YES, you would find them under the violation of the LAW. So whether you think The Law is applicable or not does not matter in the light of the facts of the matter, that being The Law is against the lawless and AS SUCH, it STANDS and will remain standing until, as Jesus said, heaven and earth passes away. If you say otherwise, what is that to me. We both should seek to respect His Words in these matters eh?

The Child of God, knowing that The Law is "Spiritual" "Holy" "Righteous" "Good if used Properly" has no need to deny the full application of The Law. It was taught by Paul that The Law was to "prove" the entire world, not just Israel, as being guilty for "all" have sinned and have sin indwelling the flesh. This is what "The Law" was always meant to show Gods offspring, AND The Law was also meant to "arouse" lawlessness unto final judgment. This working of the Law also continues to this day.

Just try and pick up the Law and you should instantly see that you are UNable to keep the physical requirements of The Law....why is that should be the question that arises.

But the Law actually EMPOWERS sin indwelling, just as Paul stated.

A "Spiritual person" being "in the Spirit" should and can understand how we, as Gods offspring, are NOT under The Law, YET we should also know that The Law has Divine Intent and Purpose, so we also do not deny these intents and purposes if we desire to be "in Truth" or "in the Spirit."

And this is also what The Apostles taught. Too many try to adhere to one set of scriptural statements and ignore or even deny the other statements to the contrary, when in fact BOTH SIDES of the equations are FULLY TRUTH AND fully APPLICABLE if understood properly.
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Nor are we under that condemnation of religious thought.


Never said Gods Perfect Children were ever under The Law, but of course they are not the only entities in play in these matters.

Why do people supposedly IN TRUTH and IN SPIRIT need to deny the facts? Isn't denial of the facts of Truth Disclosures being "out" of the Spirit of Truth? To me, that would certainly be the case. The Word is not in opposition to itself.
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Maybe you are but we are not.


And maybe your equations are simply void of sufficient facts to make such statements.

I certainly will not deny that my flesh, including my mind is subject to thoughts of lawlessness, and as such I find that the Law is a good early alert system to pinpoint a violation of the firewall of my heart and mind. Love does the same work. The Word and the Law are NOT AT ODDS.

In any case I do not have a requirement to be ignorant about these subjects in order to sustain others imaginations about these subjects. They are not as simple as you pose.

Christian Universalism would be well served with a modicum of intelligence of understanding to promote Gods Love of ALL His Children APART from denial of OUR FATHERS Words...all of them. There are things that "the letter" is MEANT to kill....and kill it will.

enjoy!

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