Thanks John no doubt deja vu is an experience we all have had. While reincarnation is true it is not ultimate Truth. Strangely I am in agreement with all here, I see no conflict as that centre of gravity which is ego, the trickster, the ancient Serpent I no longer listen too. That is the magic of Chatz's soup theory, all is present but it is homogenised by the Spirit of Grace.

No doubt there are some lumpy bits in our soup, but thank God for those lumpy ones. Just as a little lump that gets into the oyster shell is the very means of the Osyter being formed......"the Pearl of Great price."

Ron there is a sacred explanation I have posted, or should I say a "sacred exploration". It is the discovery there is no individual you or me but our "wholenesss in Christ"....that is our hope of Glory 'Christ in you' is the same as the 'Christ in me.' But this is no 'historical' Jesus or Christ but the exploration from the past into the NOW. The past will only deliver the corpse of Truth, the NOW is living truth. Therefore what jufa says has merit, it is pointlesss to recall, or explain what we have delivered in the past and seek to bring it's corpse into the present... but it is equally valid to bring the corpse of our past posts into the dissecting room and find that yes the corpse is dead:rollin

We have to explore our little heart to find our true heart, to explore our little mind, to find the Mind of Christ.When the heart bursts into flame, the past completely disappears. When our discordant notes are matched against the tuning fork, there is a hum, from which all our posts are hung.

Ultimately, there is only one discordant note which has disrupted the whole of God's perfect creation which has no beginning or end...it is thought itself not led subject to the Mind of Christ. It is only that which man's mind creates which begins and end. The only Big Bang is that which man's mind creates.Without thought, without eating of the Tree of knowledge there is no physicalcreation. We never see any actual object just the light it reflects the mind creates it's own picture and because mind is formless and universal to all, we rely on the carnal mind to interpret God's perfect creation which is the New Creation which never grows old.

Therefore the creation we live in is no different to that of the Matrix Movie. it is our primal reptillian brain that projects or creates this illusory world we live in along with it's 5 senses we live in. along with it's restless and egoistic, ritualistic, religious and hierarchical behaviour.... our sense of separateness and having a separate id is from the reptillian brain. So perhaps some here will; begin to wake up to what we are up against!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

May I add when we watch violent sexual and aggressive movies they are tapping right into our reptillian brain.............and may I add also Sport..all competitive behaviour that we are drilled in from babes....make no mistake this is a reptillian civilisation that "lies in the evil One" the ancient Serpent...the first and primtive primal brain that controls our senses our sense of fear and flight. it works on the fear of death, etc, etc.

Now reincarnation, salvation, enlightenment are all the doctrines of sky hooks.they have been invented by those who follow the reptillian brain that has an obsession with a separate identity that must be saved etc etc. Yet Paul says: "If any man thinks he is something, when he is nothing, he is deceived!" Christ says "Unless man loses his soul...he cannot follow Me."

So there is no gateway out of the Matrix of this world, as long as you are stuck in the illusion of a separate identity. This also applies to those who have gone before us, to be in heaven in a separate form whether physical bone and flesh as some teach, or astral or any form but of Spirit which is invisible and uncreated............... think about it to have eternal life means no beginning and therefore no creation. The source of what I am given is not the rhema or spoken word but the l AM the
Logos itself...........which is also your true inherent SELF!

All know already what I am posting though perhaps it has not yet surfaced untill now. I am of absolutely no consequence, just the fool on the hill that became a Mountain.:lol This is available to all, who seek to discover the source of their being....the "I" of all of us. It is like a man living in a cave, and one day know longer worships the shaft of light that dances on the wall of his cave, but goes out to find it's source.It is the dogmas and rules of this world that so powerfully keep us boxed in, how many little and big boxes are their in Christendom..tens of thousands! And as soon as we leave one box, we soon find we are in another do we not?

Until we all do this, our spiritual being will be dead and the flesh very much pretending to be reality...along with all the other dead forms of this world which we use to justify our own false reality.

To finish quickly I will quote Morpheus from the Matrix movie...it is amazing how the Spirit of Truth works, sort of like a computer virus appearing even as box office lights on Sunset boulevard.

for Granny...........
Quote:
I have seen an agent punch through a concrete wall; men have emptied entire clips of bullets on us and have hit nothing but air. Yet their strength and their speed are still based on rules. Because of that they will never be as strong or as fast as you can be.'
....

For all of us not so fast............

Quote:
You are a slave Neo. like everyone else you were born into bondage. Born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch...a prison for your mind. Unfortunately no body can be told what the Matrix is.........you have to see it for yourself.........I'm trying to free your mind Neo. but I can only show you the door. you are the only one that has to walk through it.