Thanks jufa that was a very lucid post, sadly some of my posts are getting a bit mucid. Anyhow I have not really replied to Rons questions, this fool will provide a little morsel though to some a babble, well here is my plate of nibblies of humble mumble, Ron or bauble stumble? But then let me be like Paul "pummel the air," perhaps even gospel yodel.... well hope to give you my bushells worth.:hearttoheart.gif
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Yes, some very interesting INKLINGS of a well-rumored GLORY,Stephen, but my respectful and humble question is HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?

Are you relying on a collected sharable wisdom ....externally received at first and then corroborated spiritually within your vessel of being? Revelation, of course. I would appreciate your understanding on how you are able to know this and confident enough to pass it along, perhaps even know yourself to be part of a chain of prophetic LIFE.

Listen, my friend, I really do appreciate you.... so I trust you are not feel your being 'stoned' by any aggressively cynical rocks....

Also I wonder if such confidence in the eternal validity of your perspective can have other variations of perspective yet still be reflective of THE CENTRAL TRUTH?


Ron, I have no authority unless it be given from above. If you tell me by what authority you speak I will tell you mine!

This fool shall answer with a story, just as God's Word always does.... a story I think we will all see as the story of one who "becomes a fool for Christ". You are the central story and the truth, but you have to find it, and when you do you will discover there is no 'you' only the ONE The real illusion is that there is a Teacher and a pupil that can be saved. How can an illusion save itself? There is only the One Life, omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent...where does that leave you and me? If that One Life fills all Space and all Time.then you must be THAT!

In the beginning there was a fool dreaming to be the World's Saviour.A very great fool indeed, thinking he could save other men! For this poor fool... alas! himself needs to be saved himself.

Alas friends, have your highest hopes for a saviour..... no matter how great the belief.....no man can be another's Saviour.....no not even one!

Yet man can only be saved by MAN, now that MAN/CHRIST/YOUR ANNOINTING is in you.This is the causal man the I AM whose image we are all reflecting. Nothing outside of you can save you, now this is foolishness to the wisdom of this world. This world every day has reports of those saved by men, it is a story line they love to hear.

How do we discover this CHRIST that can save us, except in solitude alone. Is that not the way of the Cross? Not unless you are totally forsaken, even by an apparent loving God which is outside of yourself can you be saved. Now salvation means to be made WHOLE. Christ was forsaken by the God of religion, the same God the Jews had created in their mind and thoughts, that placed Him there....it is not the True God and eternal Life.

Let a fool advise you, your own true fool, for only then can you come to salvation's altar....to that which Christendom calls "salvation"....if you could call Salvation a teaching. This is the Sea of blood like the Red Sea you alone must pass over, it is not external to you but within. This alone is the journey and the whole of it, the beginning and end and you in the middle yourself, caught under the fastest current like a helpless fool.This is the River Ezekiel came to "that could not be passed over". Like the 10th man that crosses the stream you become missing, for you are no longer you another has carried you over...your true SELF.

Therefore humbly I a fool give you this advice, seek not to change thyself into CHRIST, you will be short changed every time.Just as a mere shadow cannot become the Light, nor can man become the CHRIST..because he already IS..... all mankind is saved... but as Paul said "In all there is not this knowledge." It is impossible.In His Light there are no shadows. Therefore if you must seek then the end of all seeking, for all seeking returns empty handed and implodes in on itself.

Seek within therefore not through the parts, or a process involving parts. Parts can never find the "whole". seek therefore yourself not in parts or self but in the WHOLE the ONE LOAF. The Only CHRIST there is is the WHOLE, seek Him therefore in the whole of oneself, not just you but the whole realm of your consciousness.... the Universe itself. Nothing is separate from you, unless you are in a state of sin/error/death,

Ron though indeed it is difficult to find the truth within oneself, it is utterly impossible to find it elsewhere. Hence truth comes in a flash of inseeing, like the Son of God said it is like the lightening that flashes eternally in the NOW, not like the past or future which never stays the same. The NOW always IS! Let us not look to the past for salvation, to that external and forever removed from us. So like Job we can say "yet in my flesh, I shall see God."