Charles said:....."moving in the Christ......imparting no condemnation to them is what makes us free from the law of sin and death."

Leela said:......"Mmmmm. Seems to me that 'not seeing anything to forgive' and 'imparting no condemnation' is not what 'makes US free'...but rather 'indicates' that we ARE 'free from the law of sin and death'....'judging'."

Yessss!.....You are right....I like that much better.....as a matter of fact. according to the reading of Romans 8, it is the more accurate statement......I see thru your door clearly.