This thread has been employed on another board, with an individual I have presented to this board at an earlier date in the thread entitled "GATEWAYS.". On this other board, the title of the thread is called "A Point Of View." There are 65 responses to this thread, but the dialogue of Justwalter and myself occupy the majority of it. I present these two post between Justwalter and myself, which are next to the end of this communication. This is the same Walter whose wife died a few months ago. Silent R, and Stephen, in response to your last posts, you will, I hope, understand why I posed it.
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From: Justwalter Sent: 2/16/2006 2:00 PM

What I do say is that I trust in Jesus The Christ more than I trust in a human being. If I am to Eat Drink Be Merry, then who am I to say differently? It may not be for a second more or it may be for eternity, yet I do trust in Jesus The Christ and that which resonates within me. The Question becomes...who are you to place before me a way of life that quite simply only resonates within you? Are you or have you done everything that is commanded of you? Has any of us?

Will there be one who by their works alone, will accomplish ascension? Even if one attempts to qualify all of the direction that has been given, and arrives to a plan of accomplishing all that is asked...do you really believe that ascension is guaranteed? Even if you say yes, it remains a belief and faith...nothing more. Remeber those who knew the Bible inside and out, the task of ensuring what is written is fron the Spirit. They could quote reems yet it was said they didn't understand what was being said.

It is here where I am in awe of you Jufa. You can sit there and tell me everything that I do wrong. You can tell me I must do this and must do that in order to follow Jesus The Christ. Then you say I am nothing seperate from God, as God is Life. So who is it that follows Jesus The Christ? Who is it that directs me to do this or that? Is it you? And if it is, who gave you authority to do this?

I know this much, I trust in what resonates within me. It has been there all of my life. It is God within as I am a created being of God...an expression. Yet just as this body has eyes to see and ears to hear, so too does God have a myriad of expressions that serve Gods will. Are you to now come to me and say "Stop this and do that"? Are you the one who says "Your ears will now see and your eyes will hear"? By who's authority do you do this?

I have followed what Jesus The Christ has taught. I have performed the tasks placed before me, and welcomed them, for they are good (not easy but good) . I tell you that now is the time for me to Eat Drink Be Merry, and you say no. By whose authority do you say this? I tell you that I am aware of the Spirit everyday, and that I am guided by the Spirit for I choose to allow myself to be the vessel of expression through me. I do not choose when nor what it is I say to orchestrate a result? I quite clearly say "Look for yourself at the source that governs me". Read for yourself and discouver for yourself. And for Gods sake do "NOT" use me as a poster board for what is right or wrong, because the me you see is simply the vessel.

I accept Jufa...I accept...and if anything you have said, is sensed as coming from the Spirit, then this too I accept. Yet nothing you have said about Eat Drink Be Merry resonates as Truth. It is simply a time Jufa, and if it is to be a way of life so be it. Who am I to argue with the Spirit?

There is a passage in the Bible that speaks about a time that comes when one no longer is a servant of Jesus The Christ but a brother. Do you believe this can be? If I told you that I feel more like a brother than a servant would this enrage you? And I ask you, if one is a brother of Jesus The Christ, would not each day be filled with Eat Drink Be Merry?

If it is your task to be the eyes of Jesus The Christ and my task to be the Joy, are either of us unsatisfied with what we have been assigned? I tell you the Body of Jesus The Christ has many purposes, each with equal value. If what you have said resonates within you as truth, then who am I to say differently. Now if your actions go against Jesus The Christ, I can call you on your actions...just as you seek to call me on mine.

I say to you I am called to Eat Drink Be Merry. And you say NO. By whose authority do you say this? I give you an example of what Eat Drink Be Merry is about. You say my task should be something different. So quote the Bible Jufa and clearly tell me where it says I should not Eat Drink Be Merry. Bring forward your interpretation and I will bring forward mine. We'll have a few heated discussions over it and agree to dis-agree for in the end...it is simply belief and faith that are the basis for our actions.

If I was to take what you placed forward seriously Jufa, then your position is that no matter what it is I am doing, you can say I should be doing something else...and quite frankly you are not in a position or authority to do so. SO who is greater...Jufa...or the Spirit? To me it is the Spirit for it moves in a way that not even one can predict. Yet if followed, we bear witness to good fruit. That to some degree becomes our proof (for lack of a better word).

I can tell you that when I released the world and accepted Jesus The Christ, I was but four years old. Since then Jesus The Christ has never let me down. The Spirit has always been with me...even when I wrestled to be one with the world, the Spirit allowed me to do this or that so that I came back to the Spirit freely and did not deny it was always there. It is correct that one can never seperate theirself from God, for God is everywhere. What one can do, is deny the existence of God, and live a Godless life. Yet we both know this is delusional. We are nothing but faith even with the knowing we gather.

I do not say I am correct in anything I have said regarding my perceptions. I say that I follow what resonates inside, bear witness to the fruit, and from there carry on. I've made plenty of mistakes so even now you "could" be absolutely right with everything you have said. But until such time that the Spirit brings this forward for me to see, I accept what is. just as I have presented. I am no orchestrator, yet I trust in the greatest orchestrator...the Spirit. I've rambled on long enough.

One question Jufa and only one...by all that you know...can one ascend by their own actions? It is here that we will always be divided...during this biological expression called life...
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Hi Walter,

It is intriguing how a truth(s) resonate and touch us, and then we deny the touch by undermining the touch with human logic. We play the game with ourselves of hide and seek. . .hiding from the reality of the touch, yet seeking to touch reality interpretational. But this is the way of we whom live a split Life because of out split personalities. This is why you believe at times we are coherent with one another, and at times we believe we are not.

You have ask me the question of who am I "to place a way of Life before you that quite simply only resonate within me." I am a voice in the wilderness crying coming from where I'm from, just as you whom place your rendition of Life to others in your summatiion of eat, drink, and be merry. I am a messenger as you are, and as you have the right to express your message, as to your understanding, so I enjoy that right. When one plays the game, this opens up one to have the game played back upon them. Have I done what was commanded of me, yes, I have opened my mouth, and the Spirit of Life has spoken through me. Because you nor anyone else can comprehend Spirit's essence of utterance is not upon me.

"God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man that he should repent. Has he said, and shall he not do it? Or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?" Now you know perfectly well it is not about what I nor anyone believes. I do know that man can of himself "do nothing, the Father within, he doest the work." This means to me "it is not by power, nor by might, but by my Spirit saith the Lord of host," that ascension's reality has, and can occur.

I tell you nothing you do wrong, except present to me something contrary to what I am saying. Your taking it as you have is by self-condemnation. You should check out your last opening statement where you state how you have gather, discerned, and trusted that which has resonated within you, and that all is God. If I read you correctly, then what I present to you is God. Are you in awe of what God is through me?

I have no authority to tell you right from wrong, but when you place before me your trust in Jesus the Christ, and I specify His wording to you, then it is not my authority you challenge, it is He whom you trust in that you ask the question by whose authority do you do this, and tell me this.

Now you are acting as the wounded child. We are all vessels. And because you refuse to die for Jesus the Christ, as He said you must do, this means you have refused to live for Him. So don't come at me in self-pity, talking about I'm picking on you. You know what the deal is, don't you become self-righteous on me now by saying you have the right to eat, drink, and be merry. Who told you you should now do this? certainly not Jesus the Christ. Jesus said FOLLOW ME.

I cannot condemn you for the way you think, and your actions, we all have issues, and mine are inclusive of your issues. And because what I say about eat, drink, and be merry does not ring as truth to you, to me this means you have not walked through this issue as I have. Until you do, that's your bag. But I can still speak what I know, for that's my bag.

Walter, God has only one Child. That Child is the Word. Now in the final analysis, it is stated, "NOW ARE WE THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF GOD." This is the purality of the singularity of the One Lord, and God, and Father of all, in all and through all. To be a brother, you must be a brother to all men should it be true that you feel you are a brother of Jesus, for Jesus the Christ is in all, through all. Is this your relation to all men, black and white the world over?

You have been calling me on what I say all along. And it is not ony my task, it is yours BROTHER, as well as mine. You are obligated, being you are now a BROTHER, to gather the sheep back into the fold.

We are on a continuous road of expanding. One can never be satisfied. There is always something for you to do to expand yourself until you enter into God's rest.

I cannot comment on your personal experience. And if you are not aware of what I am saying, then to approach whatever it is as a truth is blind faith, and that is just as bad as having no faith. You must accept that which is true to you, no more, no less.

One cannot ascend biologically. This means nothing anyone does here physicallly, or mentally, or humanly will allow one to ascend. Now your ture body is the body of thoughts you have placed your entire being within, and upon. and should that body of thought be based on the humanism of eat, drink, and be merry. Or greed, murder, stealing, of taking advantage of any Spirit entity, then that body cannot ascend beyond the wall it has encased itself within. But when you repent, change your way of thinking, and 'THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GOD BEFORE ME. . .LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF" "Mortality has been swallowed up of Life," And it is this body of thinking which has become purified, and now has put on the Mind of Christ. And this body, and this Spirit of thoughts is what ascends. This is why we are told to 'TAKE NO THOUGHT." This means do not possess it humanly, for once you do, it is yours until you release it. And I have just described how it is released.

jufa