Hello Tagfel.

Sorry about the "meanface" I did not even realize it was on my message. I must have hit the mean face icon by accident.

RE you said...<<<First I have to say when I was taken up to the third heaven like Paul, I too saw my NEW tabernacle reserved for me in heaven and so I know absent from this body (because even though I remained on earth, I didn't feel I was in the body), but absent from the body, present with the Lord:>>>

You are saying that you were present with the Lord when you were still in the present body. That is how to see what Paul said. He was not talking about being in some other body. We can be present with the Lord in this world by walking and thinking IN THE SPIRIT, as the scripture tells us to be. If we are in pain and hurting or doing wrong, we are "in the body". This is not talking about some escape from physical existence. It is talking about spiritual conditions we experience in the world.

RE<<<spirit, soul and body, because at judgment the city is divided into these three parts, the TEMPLE pattern>>>

This too has a physical reality in the world. Jerusalem, in the natural, is Jewish, Muslim, and Christian. It is a sign to the nations of the times. Also, the Gentiles are no longer fully treading down the COURTYARD. The time of the Gentiiles is OVER, spiritually speaking. Ie... the natural man's rule and kingdoms are coming to an end.... that is what all these signs through Israel can be seen as, if we look at it spiritually.

And I am glad that you are seeing things the way you are and I see what God is doing in helping you to understand what HE is doing. I hope you also understand or believe that it is the CREATION {the body is included in this} that is to be brought into the liberty of the Son of God.

Ie.. the body is not "cast away", it is freed and remains. I do not mean that the body will remain limited to the physical boundaries or limitations of the physical world, but for the time being IT IS. We are to operate in the same weakness that ALL who are ever born in the world have to operate in. We have to become victorious in the Lord while remaining physically limited like all other men.

It does not mean we can not have or do not use spiritual powers, but those powers have to be IN OUR HEART and begin to influence and establish our thoughts and mind. The idea that we are going to do everything by what men now call miracles is an immature concept of what God is doing.

We would not think it any great thing if a six foot natural man beat up a three year old thee foot tall child, would we. Why do we think God is going to make His victory FOR US by using super natural powers outside of our own hearts? We have to overcome "man" while we are "in man". This is the exercise God has ordained to teach his sons about the creation and everything that is NOT GOD.

Thank you again and love in Christ.
keny